I am perfectly aware that non-consensual pvp is part of the game, but I am sick and tired of the fact that there is never any real relief from it. My alt corp has just had three weeks of war during which we lost more new members to the fact that they had nothing to do for a week but sit in dock. Now five days later we have yet another war dec by a one-man jita war dec corp who will cause the same problem. We've been at war with him before. Tons of RR alts. If we don't go to Jita he will catch one of our newbies who has undocked to mine in the middle of a war dec, or someone else who gets careless.

The new war dec rules are not going to change this in essence though they will help us make this kind of corp pay more. Continual wars have ruined our ability to recruit new players and keep them in the game. The myth that the new player can fit a warp scrambler onto a rifter and be of any help in a fleet is just that, a myth. Combat in Eve evolved beyond that a long time ago.

If we go to fight this guy he will dock up if our fleet is big enough to kill him. If we fight him in small groups his RR alts will enable him to kill us.

I don't have any problem with war decs in general but there should be a limit as to how many of these nuisance decs a corp should have to endure. How are we supposed to grow new players if all we can tell them is go away and do something else for a week?

Do wars have to last for a week?

Can't a corp that has already had a certain number of weeks of war get an equal amount of relief from new war decs?

Isn't there something that can be done to keep the war dec mechanic but make it livable for corps that try to attract and retain new players?:

I'm sorry I couldn't post sooner but I was wiping Mountain Dew off my monitor.

The strawman in here is pretty massive. Sort of makes one wonder if there are any non-fallacious thoughts trying to fumble their way out onto the forums any time soon...

I don' t think you know what inflation is and why that statement is contradictory.

This is your trial by fire. You are either a predator or a victim in Eve.

Guess what?

EVE is harsh. 'Nuff said.

When does the hand holding stop?

Targeting one or more market hubs is not the same as "targeting noobs" I assure you.

Did I mention?

Jita will burn.

When I tried to read this all I could think about was the irony of your nearly-exposed breasts in a thread with a lactation duration joke on the same page tied directly to babies crying for mom's teat in Eve.

And now all I can think of is how coddled your Baby Hughy must be.

What grade did you say he was in again? He's so big...

This was an allegorical post. See what I just did there?

Except that you've forgotten that Eve is a cold uncaring place where the victim doesn't have a choice. This is encouraged by the developers as it makes their game the only one like it in the world. A wonderful marketing gimmick.

In Uno you don't have a choice. You have to draw four when that card is played on you.

If our children throw a tantrum we explain to them that these are the rules, but it's just a game.

Then we make the child draw four. Sometimes they cry. Some parents maybe take pictures. It's ******* hilarious.

It's for their own good, in the end, to learn to play by the rules.

But people like you just want to change the rules.

Maturity is a beautifully elusive flower in a vast and arid desert.

you are kidding yourself if you are going to read into what i say then you have to make and compare for everyone

So your "good advice" is to say you don't know how you'd change wardecs, new players should give up their aspirations of running a corp, and just get more friends they can trust?

Survives yes, grows no. I did a trial end of 2005, don't know what the login is anymore.

There were something like 55k users logged in at that time.

It hasn't been that high the last couple of weeks.